10th October, 2007

Jeremiah
Good evening my friends it is good to be back among you again, for you see the place, our meeting place for it has changed you understand

Reference to a furniture change in our meeting room!

The Minstrel is visiting from Australia to get married in New Zealand.

There has been a journey since we last spoke my friends for you see
the minstrel we have seen!

Large gesture- hand crossing body from shoulder to waist two times. Unsure of what this is.

A country which shares a border with Iraq to invade. Barry thought it was Turkey.

For my friends I will tell you this that in the Old Land where one foot goes onto another land.
For you see there will be another time and another marching of more to invade one mans land. For you see the war that is far from over in the land of the Old Land. For you see the kingdoms that are around the land they will do what the Land of the Torch has tried. For you see as we have said before - brother against brother - father against son you understand . For you see there will be another kingdom to come into the land of the Old Land.

This invasion to be worse than when the United States and Allies invaded Iraq.

And I will tell you this that in the time of this - where one man will tread in another mans kingdom - there will be more bloodshed a lot more bloodshed than you have seen so far in your time of the Land of the Torch going into the kingdom of the Old Land

Reference to the leader of Iran visiting United States.

And with this I say to you that the man that visited the kingdom of the land of the Torch for that man will not be trusted that man will stab but we will say this to you also that the leader of the land of the torch is also a man that will stab in the back for you see the power- the power reigns and the power will be the land of the torches leader - ultimate power will be the undoing of the leader of the land of the torch you understand.

Reference to elections around the world.

For you see around the kingdoms on your earth there are a lot of counting's there will be many changes in the kingdoms around the earth before the year of 9. There will be a new thinking in the times but alas will it be too late - time will tell there will be new leaders which also brings new ideas- those ideas will not be met by those with greed.

Unsure of who the brother is... perhaps President Bush's brother?

Brother beware of the brother!

For you see my friends the words said in the scrolls and in the times they will not be changed for you see the drawings of the earth the drawings of the time they are all set and man will eventually destroy what was once a beautiful kingdom - you are only seeing the start of what will happen.
However this has always been in the time but it is here you understand

You have questions Old One

I am just thinking about what you have said.

Old One for you see Old One it is good to ask - for you see without asking we do not know!

When you said the brother is that the brother of the leader of the land of the torch?

The brother of the kingdom of the Land of the torch that is the one understand.

Is he to rise to power?

He will not rise to power however he is a powerful man. You see one does not have to be a leader to be powerful. One can get into another man's head you understand. One can go in without being in power you understand for you see as we have said before this happens and it has happened with time it has happened with Kings it has happened with Kingdoms it has happened with Queens. For you see they are only a speaker for more powerful and other leaders you understand. What they say - Old One - they are told to say - they are on counting leaders not for who they are but for what they can deliver you understand. For you see time - look back in your time and you will see that leaders are just men like you -
the Old Jew - Young one - just man.
They are human - they all make mistakes in their own way however they are told what to say when they are with council you understand. Some of them do not know how to act when they are with themselves you understand but you see they are a speaker and they do speak.
There is more much more in the councils than one who is outside the great councils will ever understand. For you see in our time on the earth plane there were the councils - there were the meetings - the people did not question. In your time now the people are beginning to question is it right or is t wrong - was it better back in our time when the councils had absolute power or is it better in your time where those who are not knowing do ask questions but they do not fully understand what goes on you understand.

Reference back to Turkey invading Iraq

When you spoke of another kingdom going into the Old Land will this be after the Land of the Torch take their men out?

Young one it will happen within 30 days of now you understand

The land that goes in and takes over the other land is that land a close neighbour?

My dear I did not say take over - I said will stand in their kingdom. There will be war and it is a kingdom with one foot here and one foot here (stamping feet) you understand
I do not understand for you see one mans kingdom one mans kingdom right and left. Jeremiah does not understand it is like a wall of a great city on one side you have in - on one side is out the outside land of the kingdom will march into the wall of the other you understand.

More floods in New Zealand and overseas.

And I will tell you this my friends that in the land of the torch and in your lands before we meet again and in another land next to the land of cotton there will be water to flow another flood to hit your land major water and flood to hit the land out of the land of cotton for you will see for you will see

Is the flood in our land is that in our top island or in our island

Old One It will be in the top Island.

We keep on saying that mans greed mans thirst for things that man wants will be mans downfall- the ultimate the power- will be his downfall for you see this is not taken lightly by
Jeremiah. Sarita and the Old Jew. But you see where we see and sit we see for where you are now it is only a closing of the eye in time.

The Minstrel has come- Old One speak!

He will be here next week he hopes to meet you

There was silence here for a while and Jeremiah appeared to be chewing. Barry describes this as dried meat which does not taste very nice at all.

The chariots in the sky for two to fall before the start of the next time before the new time.

For you see my friends for your time and for where you are what you say is not … not fair..
For it is what man does.

Shalom My friends

Barry Saw armies with Daniel Boon like Hats felt they are going where they shouldn't be feels the army is from Turkey!