17th October 2007

This session covers the visit of the Minstrel and his new wife from Australia.
The Minstrel researches the history of Christianity and the growth of religious societies
in the Christian world. He is well known for his singing and his song writing as well as being very interested in becoming a Priest.

Jeremiah
Good evening my friends it is good to be back among you again.
For you see we have new vibrations Speak

Hello Jeremiah

Speak your name

The Minstrel

Ahh the Minstrel - for there are other vibrations speak!

Hi Jeremiah I’m K

The Minstrel - for we have met before my boy!

Have we? Where have we meet before?

I’ve seen you take a bride- a quiet one!

She is!

"Vibrations" is the way in which Jeremiah sees us on this earth plane.

Reference to Jeremiah's earlier prediction about Turkey invading Iraq.
We have seen the start of this on the news this week.

For I will tell you this the vibrations are sound.
For did we not say that in your time before the 30 days that in the
Old land there would be one in and one out.

For you have seen the start of what will be - for you see the time will come when
what we see what we feel what we say - it will come to pass. In the Old times and in the old lands that man goes for more and always wants what is not his.
It happened in the old Times - it will happen in your times and it has happened in times before.

Some planes or helicopters to crash?

And I will tell you this my friends that before we meet again a chariot in the sky on fire - as a fire ball in the sky. This will be from the Land of the Torch - a sign of where the times coming and you see there will be more and more bloodshed than you will know.

Is the fire in the sky is it man made or from the chariot?

For you see Old One - the chariots come from man - Old One you understand.
You understand that the chariots in the sky are man made - therefore they come from man.
The chariot will burn from the sky - you understand - for you see man makes and man destroys the chariot. It is not the same you understand. The chariot is not the same.

Russia-Putin

For you see in the Land of the Golden Towers - and that leader that we have talked about -for you see they are very powerful kingdoms and these kingdoms will rule one day. For you see there is now no going back for once a leader has gone into kingdoms there is no going back. Not in Jeremiah's day or in my times after and times before. There is no going back once kingdoms are sought!

Reference to Barrys previous life as a Jew in a concentration camp.

Also in the time of the Old Jew for you see when there was hiding and when he tried to do what he did in the time before for you see there was no going back for once he started he had to do you understand.

A possible alliance between Russia and 2 other countries. Jeremiah has continually spoken of this during sessions in 05, and 06.

And I will tell you this my friends - that in the other land there will be talking done between 3 parties for you see it will make the land strong and in the Land of the Golden Towers and in the Lands of the Half Moon and the Star for you see the hands will bind - and in the hands there will be 3 - 3 kingdoms come together as one!

Minstrel - Will this be the beginning of the end for the Land of the Torch's power?

The Minstrel is a wise Minstrel - for you see the Land of the Torch has already lost a lot of its power. However what is power - does it come from the kingdom that has man power - that is strong with many men - or is it the land where the leader of the land is strong and comes from the mind you understand. For you see a man can be strong in mind and stand by himself -where in the kingdom of the land of the torch the land is strong because of the great armies.

However I will say this to you that in the Land of the Golden Tower - the three - they will be strong because of their armies - which one is stronger minstrel - I do not think you want to know - you understand?

For you see the times will come when there will be times when the leaders of the lands will not be able to talk. That time - we will not want to think of that time! In the time of Jeremiah and in the times of the Old Jew and in the time when the Old Jew was in the wars-we thought that was the end of that time.

Reference to Jeremiah and Barry's other guide Sarita and their relationship to Barry.

But you see the Old Jew comes back and Jeremiah is part of the Old Jew. Sarita is also.

For you see the Land of the Torch it is powerful - but the leaders of the Land of the Torch are only small. For you see as we have said that in the Land of the Torch - they are only speaking for the tribesman will tell them what to say - you understand Minstrel?

The Wise man has been on this earth before for you see you have been a Minstrel in your lives before- you have roamed many kingdoms my boy.

Reference to the Minstrel's previous life and this life. "Crier" in this sense
we believe is his research and perhaps subsequent work as a minister.

The Minstrel has just joined the Masonic Lodge. He has an interest in and is researching the history of the"Knights Templar"

Minstrel - Was I around in your time Jeremiah - did I live in your time?

We have crossed in our paths and you have been around in many times before this one. Always you have been a Minstrel - you have always walked the kingdoms of the earth - that is why you have two paths to walk. That is why on this earth plane this time you have two paths to walk my boy - two paths to see you to a time of riches within yourself that you only dream of in your dreams. For you see your words they will reach many people not only as a Minstrel but also as a Crier you understand.
For you see you will reach many my boy - many platforms to be on
- you carried the sword you have carried the sword!

Minstrel - Did I carry the sword wearing the cloth of a preacher or did
I carry the sword defending a kingdom?

You carried the Sword of the Cross my boy!

Minstrel - Can I ask you about the one they call Jesus?

You may.

Minstrel - Was he married did he take a wife like I did?

In your time on this earth plane as we speak many people are with the one they are with - but not as a bride you understand? For you see he was with Mary but not as a wife but as a wife lay she lay with him you understand?

Reference to the possibility that Jesus was taken to India and was taught spiritual philosophies. Some research * see below * talks about the possibility of Jesus surviving the crucifixion and going to India then. The Minstrel has a feeling that the years between 12 and 30 which are not documented at all are the years in which Jesus may have been in India.

Minstrel - Did the one they call Jesus - did he travel to India and learn from the wise men in India?

The men in the robes he learned from and he learned well. For you see this man was indeed a great man but like all mortals as all of us. The man they call Jesus did travel and he did return he traveled to the place India.

Minstrel - Thank you Jeremiah!

Old One - I talked with the Minstrel of how you walked into Egypt you took the Jews into Egypt that was correct wasn’t it.

Old One you listen well it was Jeremiah - also it was the Old Jew for the Old Jew he was the Jeremiah - good teacher and still is a teacher in his time.

Old One - Jeremiah - you were known as the first Jew?

I was!

Why is that?

Jeremiah is adamant that Baruch only wrote what Jeremiah told him to write.

Because I was the first - it is mine - it is me for you see Jeremiah speaks, Jeremiah sees - Jeremiah taught - Jeremiah was the first Jew you understand. For you see many times questions many times people ask. Baruch was my scribe - for you see he wrote - he wrote my words - you understand - they were not Baruchs words they were mine!

You were around in the time of the King Zedekiah?

Reference here to the fact that there is a body of thought that Baruch wrote the words and they did not come from Jeremiah.

Zedikiah his sons and the kings of the times. Jeremiah has known them all you understand. For when we see Old One -Young One - The Quiet one and Minstrel - and we see what we see it is how we see. I have said before that man sees - man will only hear what he wants to hear - man will listen and man will scribe - man will scribe things so they are taken in a way sometimes not the way that Jeremiah wanted them to be you understand?

Quiet One- How Old were you in your time that you remember?

Jeremiah was on this earth plane for many a time - for you see when we go and then we come back. Jeremiah has been back many a time looking for the Old Jew.

Quiet One- How Old were you the first time?

Jeremiah was 75 in your years you understand.

Thank you

Minstrel - I’m joined to a group of people we call ourselves the Masons
- were we around in your time?

Minstrel - in my time and in the times Jeremiah was looking for the Old Jew. For you see there have been many councils and many things that Jeremiah sees. Jeremiah knows - for I say to you that in the times - yes - they were there for you see sometimes some things that man - mortal man - you see their meetings are not known to all you understand.

Minstrel - I do thank you.

But in answer to your words the secret councils have always been around in my time and all my times on the earth plane.

Have you ever been a part of these secret councils in any of your lives?

Jeremiah - on his time - is too outspoken to be part of a secret you understand. For Jeremiah would speak out of turn like the Old Jew speaks out of turn. Jeremiah did not have time to be part of a secret council. Jeremiah spoke too much you understand. But you see Jeremiah he knows that the councils were there but it was something that Jeremiah did not belong too.

Quiet One - Jeremiah do you know what I did in a past life - in my last past life?

The quiet one (gesturing with his hands like cupping small birds.) You have always been a quiet one for you see you have always been with the doves - you have always been with the doves you understand Sarita will talk to you.

Jeremiah can see the list of questions Minstrel has prepared!

Minstrel - speak you have the writings

Minstrel - Yes I do

I like this boy!

Minstrel - Did Jesus ever have anything to do with the secret councils - some in this life say he did are they wrong?

Reference to the Bible being taken out of context.

They are wrong. For you see man will put things into words that he wants to put into words. For what he wants to believe you understand? For you see on this earth plane there are good people but you see there are beliefs for the man called Jesus. For you see they get taken out of where they should be taken to - for you see no one - no one but the man. For you see the writings for some people take them as they are written - others look beyond the words. You must look beyond the words Minstrel as you do - for you see you have goodness inside you must look beyond the words you understand.

Minstrel - In the last meeting you said I would worship my King is this the same King as when I took up the sword of the cross?

It is the same King for your heart is pure - your heart is pure and you will worship your King but in your way. Minstrel in your way. For you see in your way you can worship your King in your words and your song and also worship your King with your speaking you understand?

Quiet One - In our time we worship God and Jesus as one are they as one?

Your God is what you want your God to be - for you see some people's Gods are the trinkets in which they hold for you see the God is in all of us. Jeremiah likes to hear of the power of the power with in.

Quiet One - Speak

Yes Jeremiah

Do you understand my dear

Quiet One - Yes I do

Old One - speak.

I was just asking if - as you’ve said before - that the God is inside of us .

Have I not said that Old One - listen Old One. Speak Minstrel speak!

I have one more question that I would like to ask but I do not want to take up all your time!

Minstrel?

Yes Jeremiah.

I’ve got all the time - speak!

Minstrel - This cross I carry - the sword of the cross - was this the Knights of the Templar?

There was such a group on this earth plane and the cross that they carried is your cross.

Quiet One - Did he die with the Templars or did he survive?

He was killed with the Templars

Minstrel - Can I ask how I was killed Jeremiah?

Do you really want to know?

Minstrel - I have an idea it would have been bad.

You were betrayed - your head was cut from your body you understand?

I understand.

For you see your head was cut from your body - this Minstrel - has happened to you more than once for the righteousness that you carry in your heart.

At this stage Sarita moves in with personal messages for the group. They are recorded here as a record for the Minstrel and Quiet One.

Good evening my friends there are new vibrations - They can speak.

Quiet One - Hi my name is K

Minstrel - Hi Sarita I’m C or the Minstrel

The quiet one - you ask a question of Jeremiah?

I was wanting to know about my past lives.

The one I want to mention is a castle - you were a princess - but you were quiet you spoke only to nature you spoke only to animals - you spoke only to the doves - they are your friends they will be with you - you have always been woman you were Anne. You were a healer then as you will be now - The Quiet One!

The Minstrel - it has always been said many platforms many trinkets.

For you see my friends Jeremiah speaks of things that happen but we are the gentle side of Jeremiah.

Quiet One - you told the group that I should spend some time with Barry why is that?

For you see Quiet One - you must learn - you must learn to trust yourself and what is in your heart. You have much to learn but much time to learn it - for you see the Old Jew - he still has much to learn too. You must learn that what is in your heart is pure - you must learn the strength in your heart - you must learn to trust in what you have and who you are - for if the Old Jew did not do this then he would not be doing what he is doing today do you understand?

I think so

For you see Quiet One - you do hold the key - but do you want to turn the key for the Kingdoms are there if you want them.

Reference to a feeling of discomfort in the neck area.

Quiet One - In any of my past lives was I killed in the way of the neck?

I will say yes in two of your past lives you were killed by the way of the neck.

Do you know how?

One you were taken from behind and one you were hung -
but both your lives were taken from you.

Was I at fault?

In one life yes one life no!

Minstrel - Can I ask you if my Nana is here.

She is here she gives you a gift.

Minstre l- What does she give me Sarita.

Sarita does not understand
(gesturing to mouth as if eating and then handing something over)
- you eat the gifts!

Minstrel - She gave me ice creams!

She is well she is proud of you Minstrel she says you make her proud.

Thank you my friends

Thank you Sarita

Jeremiah

For you see my friends while we sit with the Old Jew we look - we see to the Minstrel and the Quiet One.Your journeys on the earth plane will be filled of wonder -
enjoy your journeys we will meet again.

Shalom my friends

Footnote - Barry

Barry saw Putin signed something with the devil - (used in this sense as describing a bad alliance with another country.) - one common enemy.

Be a very powerful coming together - good for them not good for other kingdoms who don’t agree with them.

Barry heard lots of horse hoof beats going all over the place. Could have been during the Knights Templar discussion.

A Helicopter to go down something to do with America.

Jesus in India

*Footnote taken from http://www.geocities.com/athens/delphi/1340/jesus_in_india.htm

In the section dealing with the evidence adduced from ancient Buddhist records, Hazrat Ahmad has resolved a question which, owing to its difficult nature, has for a long time confounded many a Western writer.

These writers have been baffled by the striking resemblance that exists between Christian and Buddhist teachings and between the life events of both Jesus and Buddha as revealed in their respective Scriptures.

Some of these writers hold the view that Buddhist teachings must somehow have reached Palestine and been assimilated by Jesus in his own sermons. But there is absolutely no historical proof to support this theory.

"Sword and Cross"

This photograph is of a Masonic Knights Templar symbol showing a cross within a crown inside a Maltese Cross